Episode #49: Benchmark Campaign Performance with Hannah Smith

Episode #49: Benchmark Campaign Performance with Hannah Smith

My last piece generated no linked coverage at all…

Am I terrible at this?

My answer to this question is always:

Unequivocally no.

You are not terrible at this – this is something that everyone experiences; and it happens far more often than you think.”

-Hannah Smith on benchmarking campaign outreach campaign performance

What do 2,000 digital PR pieces created by 11 agencies and in-house teams tell us about campaign success? Our guest shares her findings of this exact analysis with us. From this, you'll walk away with a greater understanding of what performance looks like across the board, and how your own work might fit into this landscape.

In this episode, you’ll learn…

  • What placement numbers look like from thousands of campaigns

  • Which factors impact campaign performance

  • How to set up realistic expectations with stakeholders

Our guest is:

  • Hannah Smith, Director of Worderist-- a company that offers consultancy, coaching, training & support to help develop and grow Creative, Production, and PR teams, improve processes and deliver results. Smith is an award-winning creative who's been deep in the trenches of content and PR for more than 15 years. 

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Show Notes:

:00– Britt introduces our guest.

1:50– Britt talks about Hannah Smith’s analysis, article and lecture about the topic of benchmarking, and invites Hannah to provide more detail.

5:40– Britt asks if Hannah was surprised by agencies sharing their losses. 

7:36– Britt asks Hannah to explain non-asset vs. asset-based campaigns and why she separated the two categories within her data. 

12:56– Britt asks if there were any large differences between non-asset and asset-based campaigns. 

16:54– Hannah asks Britt and Jackie what they think about reactive, non-asset based campaigns. 

22:50– Hannah talks about the “hubspot problem” in our industry (clarifying there’s nothing wrong with Hubspot specifically!).

25:40– Britt asks Hannah for tips on how to set up realistic expectations with stakeholders.

29:40– Britt reads an excerpt from Hannah’s article about measuring success over a number of pieces rather than by 1 piece. She asks Hannah to talk about the best metrics and how many pieces to look at. 

38:25– Britt asks a technical reporting question about reporting on syndications and invites both Hannah and Jackie to give their thoughts. 

49:10– Britt mentions having Hannah back on in the future and thanks her for coming on the show. She also invites Hannah to give a shoutout to a colleague. Hannah gives a shoutout to her friend Surena Chande.

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